Inside Look at the InBody Scan

This episode is an educational look at the InBody Scanner and why we use it at Rebel Fitness. We break down why we ditched the scale and started using the InBody only at the gym, how it works, why we love it, challenges we've encountered while using it and also what trends it has helped us see over time! 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Yo, this is about to really hurt some people's feelings.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Oh, if you're a little sensitive, you might as well turn it into drop a drum when you weren't ready to. What's up, everybody, and welcome back to another episode of Real Talk with Rebel Fitness. Taken it's gonna take me a second to get back in the swing of things a little bit. We were just joking that it's been like four episodes since I've started this situation, been in even in the seat, like in three episodes. I don't even know. So I've been on vacay, guys. I've missed you. I don't know if the way we posted the podcast probably doesn't seem like it, but I have been. Um, I also learned a new fun thing that Tracy and the team have to actually adjust my microphone for my volume, you guys. And if you know me, you know. Does Shamar's have to be adjusted at all for him? That's hilarious. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Well, I'm always in this chair. It's because you're in that chair or the guest is in that chair. That's true. This is just these are my settings. That's true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01

Okay. So he's not. On a scale of one to ten, I'm clearly a ten. Where would you say you are on the volume? Probably like a on the Richter scale.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Like a seven. You know. I've gotten some some compliments at the judge. Like, you know, Shamar, you're you're very monotone. You kind of keep it like keep it on track. You know, Carissa she'll get off or yell or vent, but you normally bring it back around. I was like, you know, just I just like I do some of the planning, you know, so I just bring it back to the next bullet point. And um, and apparently in the military and um and diet culture, and let me grab the mic and tell y'all what the fuck is up. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Okay. Anyway, so that was a fun little yeah, it is. It's a good balance, which is crazy though, because you and I are like the same Enneagram number and stuff. So it's interesting. It's just interesting how um that balance works.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

But I was just But we're in different life stages of the same Enneagram number.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

That's definitely, yeah, that's definitely true. So I was just telling Josh out there, I was like, I'm so thankful that like I could be out for a couple episodes, and like you just don't even miss a beat. Like, you just come in here and do your thing and talk to people, and they're great podcasts. So if you guys did not um listen to the one with Melissa, um, was really amazing. The one with Harrison was really amazing, and then they just recorded one, him and Ruben just recorded a part two of their features all the gifts of their shenanigans. So we shall see how that one is. I didn't even get to listen to it, so I'm excited about that. But today, you guys, we are this one's gonna be short and sweet, okay? So today we wanted to do a little bit of like an informational podcast on something that we feel really strongly about. We talk a lot about it. I feel like on this podcast, we definitely talk a lot about it in the gym, but we realize that we've never really gone into the like specifics and the nitty-gritty of in-body scanning. And so I think it's really important for us to just do a quick educational blip on this and help people understand, you know, why we do the in-body scan, well, what the in-body scan is, first and foremost, why we do them, um, the challenges that we see with um, you know, using just weight as a measurement tool, but also the challenges we see using in-bodies as a tool. Um, because that is definitely something, you know, that we are always working, finding workarounds and figuring out what works best. But we also kind of want to touch base about some trends that we're seeing too. Um, and just kind of like riff about that a little bit. We don't do a ton of scanning at our gym. A lot of people are kind of surprised when we talk about that. And we'll talk about that a little bit more in like the challenges section of things that we've learned and ways that we've adjusted the way that we use the in-body over time. But um, we definitely use it intentionally in our gym, and it's something that's really important to us to get really great measurements for people.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

The main thing with the in-body right is that it's super informational and helpful for us, but we also have to make sure it's helpful and not hurtful for the clients, right? So getting a baseline is always very, very important. But after that, we almost like to use it as a win, right? Like if you if you were walking up to your teacher in high school and you were like, they were saying, Hey, you can take your test today, have you studied, or we can take it in two weeks and I'll give you some extra time to study. I think almost everybody would say, Let me just have two more weeks to study, right? Yeah, no one no one likes to get caught off guard, have to take the test when they feel like they haven't been doing what they should be. That is gonna make you go into it with a certain level of guilt. And then if you get the results from not executing, what is that gonna do? Yeah, right. It might be a short-term motivator to like, okay, I gotta lock in. But we see all the time that people respond much better to positive words or affirmations and or just stacking wins more than piling up loss after loss after like, hey, man, another shitty scan, another shitty scan. Like, what if you just worked with them? We're like, hey, let's really let's take a scan in a month, let's see when you really get your nutrition under reps, then we'll take another scan after a couple of weeks, right? So it's really important for us to use it as a win and not for something just to like maintain power over clients or be like, hey, number's not moving, we got to do something else. Or look, you're you're not at that goal, you gotta stick with me, right? Because you can use it in a very intimidating or hurtful way, which is what the scale has always done and why we went towards the in-body. But you still could use the in-body in a very harmful way.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Absolutely. Yeah. Okay, so on that note, I want to get straight into, you know, when we started Rebel and we decided to cut the scales out of the entire gym, and we decided to solely go with the in-body scanner. Um, kind of like what our mindset was around that and how it's continued to change. Because again, when we started it, it's not like we knew exactly what we're doing. We were just, we just knew we didn't want to do scales anymore for all the reasons that you were just saying. Um, we wanted to do body composition because we want to help people understand what weight actually is, because the in-body is essentially going to send a micro wavelength through your body. You're not gonna feel it at all. It the whole scan takes what, 45 seconds, something like that, maybe. Um, and it's just searching for different densities in your body. So it's gonna be looking for water, it's gonna be looking for um dry mass like bone density, it's gonna be looking for muscle mass, body fat, you know, and then all of those things go into the one number that is your weight. And so again, this is the main reason that we wanted to go this direction because those are the things that matter in regards to your weight, not just your weight number. You know, you and I were talking about this the other day, and there's all these new studies coming out about, you know, weight loss specifically on like the shots and with lap band surgeries and different things like that. And the reality is, is for every three pounds lost, it's something stupid, like half of that weight is either muscle mass or organ mass. And so those were numbers to us that was like we were doing those six-week challenges, we were helping people lose 20 pounds, they were gaining it right back again. So those were things that resonated with us because we were like, weight is so dumb. Like, this is such a dumb number to just be focusing on. So, how do we help people? We were doing the little Omni, you know, whole body fat scanner or whatever it was, but we were like, how do we take this to the next level and help people actually see body composition? So we got the in-body, we were stoked to start using that, but right off the bat, we were scanning all the time. We were scanning constantly. And, you know, you brought up a really good point when you're talking about, you know, weaponizing information. And I think that that's something that's really important to point out right now is that an in-body, even though it's better than a scale, can still be weaponized. It can still a hundred percent be like a negative thing. Um, so at the beginning, we were scanning constantly. I mean, we were like, people were like, I want to do a scan every single week. Like we'll make an adjustment on something, then we'll scan again and make an adjustment and scan again. And then over time, we started realizing, okay, this is becoming just as obsessive.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

I think for us too, we just had to see the trends and see the accuracy of the machine as well, right? Because we had to learn that it's 98.5% correct or whatever it is, right? So if you've changed a 0.5 in muscle mass and one in body fat percentage, it might not pick it up until that's closer to a 3% change and a two or three pound difference in your muscle mass. Because it's not perfect, right? It is just searching for those different densities. There's a room for error situation. But I think at the beginning we were trying to be like, oh, can we see that they gained half a pound of muscle this week? Can we see that they're gaining you know a muscle or two pounds of muscle every month? Which in a perfect world with somebody that's on track, doing stuff, buy the book, checking every box in an obsessive way, maybe you can look at it that way. But for the average person, the trends are not gonna be perfect. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Absolutely. And that, you know, again, that's what we wanted to see too was like the trends. At the end of the day, again, this is a lot of what we preach in here is it's not always gonna be sunshine and rainbows, it's not always gonna be perfect. But on the in-body at the bottom of it, you can actually watch the trend of body fat um percentage and lean muscle mass in pounds over time. So every time a person comes in, it plots a point on this little graph at the bottom, which is really cool to see. It's really motivational. Again, is it super accurate if you're doing it week, week, week, week, week on top of week, not as much. And it gets a little more obsessive. But if we're doing it every 21 to 30 to 40-ish days, is pretty, I feel I feel like 14 is kind of short, but every once in a while we'll do that if somebody's making like a big change on something. But mine are typically 21 to 30 days apart for my folks. Um, but that's really impressive, like fun and impressive and cool to see is that trend over time continuing to go in the direction that you want it to. But in real time, as trainers and as staff, we can say, okay, we were we've been trending up and now you're starting to plateau out. Um, so which is typical. So let's, how are you feeling? Are you feeling great? Do you want to, is this like a maintenance mode for you? Awesome. Let's make that adjustment. If it's not, you want to keep going. Here's a couple little tweaks that we can make to keep you going in the right direction. Um, or if it flip-flops, that's where we come in too and are able to say, hey, you know, what have what's been happening? It could be overtraining, it could be under training, it could be um you're not sleeping well, it could be cortisol is through the roof. And when I say the numbers flip, I mean that your muscle mass is going up, or excuse me, your um body fat percentage is going up and your muscle mass is going down. That would be the opposite of what we would want to see on that. Um, so I think it's really important to, I think it's really important for us to talk about, you know, a lot of the things that we see as far as like those things um working for people, like helping motivate people. Um, I think it's really important for us to talk about again the ways that it can be weaponized. We have a lot of people who come in from other places and they are just willy-nilly using an in-body scan and they're not really doing any coaching with it. They're not doing any education. So, all a person, a person does like a challenge group with them or something like that. They do a scan at the beginning and the end. They gained body fat. And so then they feel like a huge loser and like they didn't do anything right and all those things. That's something that we take really seriously. A rebel is the education piece. So every single in-body that we do, we're going to sit with you, we're gonna talk through the results, unless you're taking it to a doctor or something like that. Um, we're gonna talk through the results, we're gonna help you understand what it is that you're looking like, looking at, but also help you understand what could be causing some of those things. So, in your like time doing the ishmar, what is, you know, when a person comes in and their numbers are going the opposite direction of what we want to see, what's like some of the top things that you know is causing that?

SPEAKER_00 12:26

So a lot of the time it's gonna be overall undereating. And then while you're under eating, it's almost impossible to hit a protein goal. So then you're gonna really have no way to build and or maintain the muscle, and then you also see a spike in cortisol a lot of the time when you're under stress from under eating, which can increase your fat gain, you know, pretty exponentially, even if it's not long-term fat that you're gonna hold on to, it will make a difference. Yeah, and then there's also just a lack of understanding with what people are truly consuming that's making it go the wrong way. Like me and Ruben talked about it on this last episode. He likes honey bunches of oats strawberry or whatever, but now there's protein honey bunches of oats strawberry. And if you look at the difference, the calories go from like 160 calories and three grams of protein in the normal to like 250 calories and seven grams of protein in the protein one, right? So you're getting pretty much twice the amount of calories with twice the protein, but it says protein packed on the box, and it's seven grams of low-quality soybean extract, fiberless, whatever protein that's like it just doesn't do anything for you, right? So a lot of the time it's people putting forth a certain level of effort and really feeling like they're doing well, but the knowledge doesn't line up with the effort, and they're using peanut butter as a good protein source, or they're getting duped into some of these high protein, linear layery cookies or protein snacks that are not actually healthy for you and don't actually have a good calorie to protein ratio. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

And I think you know, it's really I feel like we are always talking about muscle in our gym because it is so freaking important. It is so important to, again, it's top three longevity, um, you know, determinants, it is um strength over time. A lot of times it relates directly to bone density and things like that. Brain function. Um, like brain function, all of those things. But it relates so much, like it is directly related also to your metabolism. And so that's another thing that we get to see on the in-body is your actual basal metabolic rate. A lot of people don't understand what that is. And I'll start off by saying, again, we're talking about like the weaponizing part of this. I just did a consult yesterday where a woman came in and she goes, Well, you know, according to my doctor, I'm obese. And when I tell you it took everything in me, because I had just met this woman. Okay. But I don't be like, who the fuck is your daughter? Give me his number right now. Like, are you serious? Because she is not in any way, shape, or form, not in any way, shape, or form. And so I said, Okay, we're gonna put a pin in that and we're gonna talk about it in a second. Um, let's do this in-body scan first. Because what we want people to realize is again, this is where weight becomes just a stupid asinine number so many times, is BMI, for example, because that's what that this doctor is using to calculate her obesity problem, um, is based on her height and her weight. And she was a shorter woman, but she was in no way, shape, or form overweight in any way. Um, but they're calculating it based on just the height that they take at the doctor's office, the weight that they take on that old ass scale that I guarantee you they're never putting a weight on to actually.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Put it on a little graph.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

100%. And then they put it on a little graph and then they tell her she's obese and now she feels terrible. She goes home, she's now been starving herself for weeks because she's obese and she's gonna die, and all these things. I put her on the in-body scan. The in-body is going to take into account her height, her weight, and her actual muscle mass.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

And her age, and all the things.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

All these different things, yeah. And it's like, then it's going to crank out. And guess what? Her BMI was on the in-body. Fine. Fine. Within the normal ranges and totally fine. And so after explaining that to her, I mean, it was like, she was like, why would he say that to me? It's like, I don't know. Make sure you take this and ask him next time.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Because it makes it more money for you to come back and see him more frequently or buy supplements for the weight loss injections from him.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

And then also this just idea that again, skinnier is healthier. It's just this overarching idea. It's just easier for them to be like, you just need to lose weight. You just have you ever thought about losing weight? Have you have you lost weight? Have you thought about losing weight? It's like that's always the thing. And at the end of the day, him trying to encourage her to lose weight through this BMI number is actually making her more unhealthy. She's like, I'm starving myself. I'm not sleeping. All I do is think about food. I'm obsessing about all the things. And now I'm in here trying to talk to you because I'm trying to figure out if there's more I can do on top of starving myself to lose more weight. So I'm not obese. Help. Like, what are we actually doing? And so that's another thing that we look at. Again, back when we were doing the um six-week challenges, and this is again where we're very transparent. We call ourselves out all the time about this stuff because you know better, you do better. But back when we were doing um these weight loss challenges, we were 100%, I guarantee you, people were losing muscle mass. I mean, they were losing weight 20 pounds in six weeks, 20 plus pounds in six weeks. They were 100% losing and they were just boxing. They were just boxing. So they're 100% losing, you know, muscle mass. But we're cheering on the weight loss. And so those days we were not protecting somebody's metabolism. And that was something that I said when we started this in-body process and every consult that I do now. I'm like, we, if nothing else, this in-body holds us accountable. It holds me accountable as the owner of this gym to everything that I'm telling you guys that we're gonna do, which is taking care of your metabolism, helping you increase that number by increasing your muscle mass. So as your muscle mass goes up, your basal metabolic rate will go up. And that's a good thing. And we probably do a whole nother episode on how afraid, especially women are, of eating more and having a higher basal metabolic rate. Um, but you guys, muscle pays rent. Muscle requires more energy to maintain. So it is going to help you burn calories just existing on a level that you are not doing with higher body fat.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Yeah, because your basal rate is just what your body uses to exist every single day. So if your basal metabolic rate is 1,500 calories, that doesn't mean that you need to eat less than 1,500 calories. That means that your body requires 1,500 calories to do what it needs to do. And then you walking, you getting up and going to the bathroom, you making decisions at work, you going to the gym, whatever it is, that's all extra calorie burn on top of your basal rate. So people see that basal rate and they're like, I need to eat less than 1350. No, that's what you would burn if you sat on your ass all day on the couch at home and didn't move. So you add in a walk, you add in the gym, you add in whatever you ate that takes digestion and all these other things. Your actual number is closer to 2,000, 2100, whatever. So if you eat under that number, that's what a deficit looks like, right? And people get so confused on well, do I need to eat less than this number or that number, or what is my metabolic rate, or am I just 2,000 calories like everybody else, like the FDA says? But that's one thing that the Mbody gives us access to, right? Is to really see the basal rate, which we can see increase or decrease, and that helps us not just use calories, but use macros, right? Because we see that number change based off muscle increases, things happening in the body, fat loss going down. But then if the number is coming down and the weight's coming down, then we can see that okay, just because the weight is coming down, but the muscle is also coming down, we have to change the macros, right? Because the protein might be in the right spot, but the calories are in the wrong spot, or vice versa. We're eating in a deficit, but too far into a deficit, or at the right deficit, but with the the wrong macro balance, right? So the fact that it gives us the weight, the basal metabolic rate, and shows us the fat versus muscle distribution really allows us to not just look at your weight or your muscle, but to look at you as an entire being.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Yeah, you know. And it's so helpful. It sounds like a lot of information, like it's a little overwhelming. I think sometimes the first couple times we talked to people about it, hell, it was a little overwhelming for us when we first got it to like, okay, this, this, this, like, do all the research. But it's so empowering, and that's why we love this thing. So when we're doing these meetings with people and doing in-bodies, we're spending a good chunk of time talking about each one again within our scope. We're not gonna go into anything that's outside of, you know, muscle mass, body fat percentage, visceral fat, metabolics. But within our scope, we're doing a lot of education because this information, like what you're talking about right now, blows people's minds. They don't understand why we wouldn't just look at weight. And when it comes to, again, like the basal metabolic rate, a lot of times, like I just again was doing a consult not too long ago, and one of the ladies was telling me about how she had, you know, the worst brain fog and she was losing hair at a rapid rate and doing all these things, which she wasn't on any of the shots or anything. Did I think she was just restricting so much and dieting so much, but having all these really bad things, like having a hard time focusing, the brain fog, the crash in the middle of the afternoon, all these things. And then we got to the inbody, and she we were talking about the basal metabolic rate, and she goes, Oh, yeah, that's about how many, you know, calories I take in a day, or probably a little bit less than that. And I was like, Well, I think you just answered why you're having all of those. Issues. So it's like that education piece, because like you said, that's the minimum, right? Like that's the bare minimum of what you need on a daily just for your metabolics to function. I think people don't understand too. Your metabolics control everything.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

Everything. Like we I think we talked about this on here before, but it's like, you know, your ability your body's ability to hold hair in its head and grow it, your lungs to work, your body's body's ability of um ability to sleep through the night well, um, its ability to think and you know, work through things all during the day without crashing, um, regulate your body temperature, like all of those things are metabolics. And so if you are, I make this joke all the time, but I'm like, don't come to me talking about brain fog and you're taking in the amount of calories that a toddler would take in. Yeah. Of course you have brain fog and you're doing that to yourself. Like there's no way your body can't function off of that few of calories. And so, anyway, I think it's important again to um, we think it's important to protect people's metabolism. And so at the end of the day, that's what we're watching too is your basal metabolic rate. We're watching to make sure that number's going up because that directly relates to the amount of lean muscle that you are gaining. And over time, we want to see lean muscle go up, but like your body fat and your weight go down for most folks, it's not for everybody, obviously. Um, but then that basal metabolic rate, that's what we're watching, and that's how we hold ourselves accountable. Because if I print off a bunch of in-body scans, which is I guarantee what we would have done in our title days, um, if we would have printed off 20 of these scans and people would have lost 20 plus pounds, but if we would have mosey on down to the bottom and watched that body fat percentage shoot through the roof and that muscle mass tank, um, then it we like, what are we actually doing? So, um, and that's what, you know, we joke about the term skinny fat in this field a lot, but that's essentially what it is is again, we can help anybody lose 20 pounds. It's the easiest thing in the world. It's gonna be painful for you. Um, you're gonna hate us, you're gonna gain it all back. But I mean, most likely again in a short amount of time, but at the end of the day, we're not protecting your metabolism by doing that. It's not sustainable for long term. And that's what we're in it for, and that's what we're using the in-body for at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

And most people like it's you're gonna have a pretty much direct correlation to an increase in metabolism to an increased quality of life. Because that just means that I can now get away with doing a little bit more, right? If you have a really slow metabolism, that means you have to be on track, really on top of all your stuff all the time. As your metabolism increases, that doesn't mean, hey, throw all the stuff you've been doing out the window, eat whatever, but you now have more leeway, right? You can have pizza once a week and not worry about it because now your metabolism just kind of takes care of you in a certain way. You just burn more at rest, so you are allowed to take in more without seeing a negative repercussion. So increase in metabolism is gonna make your fitness journey easier. And when your fitness journey continues to improve, quality of life has no choice but to follow.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Truth, absolute truth on that preaching. Um, the last thing that we're really paying attention to on the in-body is the visceral fat number. So, again, we're looking at overall body fat. You know, the in-body will kind of spit out a number at the very top right-hand corner of our report that shows an overall number of what it would like to see your body lose in body fat. Now, I tell people, because a lot of times that number will crank out, it'll be, you know, like minus 40. And the first thing people think is that's how much weight I need to lose. Like, oh my God, like no, you would look like a crackhead, most of these people. But what it wants to see is you turn a good chunk of that body fat into lean muscle. Um, and then some of it by default, you will lose. So that number we're watching going down over time. Again, that's directly related to the amount of body fat that you're losing on our trending little bottom graph, and then our lean muscle mass going up, um, which directly affects your basal metabolic rate. Then we're looking at visceral fat is kind of the last thing. And so visceral fat is one of those things a lot of people just automatically assume it's just the fat around your stomach. Um, but it's not necessarily that. Like sometimes there can be a little bit of a correlation to like the circumference of your stomach and visceral fat. But the visceral fat is like the dangerous fat around your organs, like internally. And so the in-body can read that within, you know, I mean, it's pretty accurate, like the research that I was doing on it. Um, visceral fat, I will tell you, is especially for women, but for both sexes, is one of the toughest things to affect change to. Um, and we've got some theories on that. There are definitely some things that um, you know, we see as trends that um we'll talk about here in a second. But visceral fat is one of the hardest things to affect change to. Visceral fat, in my humble opinion, is consistency over time. Yeah. I think that is when and safety. Um, which is the same.

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Which is one of those things that you kind of build up over time, right? It's not if you're gaining a little bit of weight, you say you have like your freshman 15, most of that's not gonna be visceral fat. Correct. Visceral fat is more so accumulated when you've been at a higher weight than your body would like to be for an extended period of time, and it's essentially looking for extra area to store the fat that it doesn't know what to do with. So it's not visceral fat is not gonna be the first fat you get for most people, but it's like Chris is saying, like that consistency over time, if you remain overweight, if you remain in a surplus for too long, just like you would start to develop pre-diabetes, things like that, the visceral fat comes at a like a slower rate.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Absolutely. Absolutely. So um, kind of jumping into like we can go ahead while we're talking about visceral fat, jump into um some of those other trends that we've been seeing. This is so visceral fat is another one that I think um women especially struggle with when you get more into like the perimenopause and menopause stages. Because again, does metabolism slow down meh, like the tiniest bit? But overall, are we just moving less as we get into the stage 100%?

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Yeah, the natural slow of your metabolism is is not very much. Your natural calorie burn is down, but not because your metabolism just stopped working.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Absolutely. And I think that's another thing that we try our best to like get women to understand because it the older we get, I think the harder it is. I don't know if you agree or disagree with this, to convince women to lift weights. Oh, yeah. It's like crazy, but that is one of the biggest keys. Like that is one of the biggest keys to burning calories and being able to maintain um, like where you want to be. And again, being realistic about what that looks like because in your 20s and 30s, it's a lot hard, it's a lot easier to kill yourself and stay on all the restrictive diets and and the fat burners and the supplements and drink caffeine nonstop. But as you get into perimenopause, menopause, you're probably gonna be like, mm-mm. No, but we're not doing that anymore. So you are a hundred, we are a hundred percent gonna get ready to ruin you. Um, so fat will settle in areas that you necess didn't necessarily see before. But what we will find, and this is something that I've watched trend over many people in the gym, and you and I were just talking about this the other day, but a lot of the times with these high, really high um restrictive quote unquote diets, the injections, the lap band stuff, the stomach surgeries, I don't know what the right terms are for all of those things, but something, you know, with that. Um, the trend that we see every single time, I've seen it again. I this is not like a you know perfect PubMed study, but every hundred percent of our people, um weight will be lost, significant amounts of weight, even over time. But that visceral fat, she ain't moving.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Because we've seen 30 plus pounds, we've seen 50 plus pounds of weight loss, especially when it's coming to these injections, because we we know and they admit that at least a third, closer to half, a lot of the time, is that lean mass, the organ mass, the bone density. But when you see it in real time with people that you know, it's it's much more disheartening. It really is. You can see like because they also talk about certain things that happen, you know, the the Ozympic face, the Osimpic butt, the the loose skin, these things are are real, right? These are not just internet trends, things that they talk about in the doctor's office. If you have friends on these weight loss injections that are doing it too quickly or without the help that they need from professionals, from a trainer, from a dietitian or nutritionist, you can probably tell which of your friends are on it, right? And not always in a good way. A good way because they're lighter, but in a not so good way that they look less happy and like they have less joy in their lives. Because they're also seeing that this doesn't just change your hunger, but like your general like zeal for life. Like this just like people are using it to you know get off of drinking and like it's helping people not smoke as much, but it literally just numbs your desires in general, yeah, which is the scariest part. It's not just a hunger suppressant, it's like a you suppressant.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Yeah, it's such a mind fuck too, because one thing that I have noticed with this whole thing is that the amount of people, and again, it's this is women and men, but obviously I deal with more women in my life, so I can speak to that more. But the amount of women who will make comments about somebody being on Ozempic or somebody being on any, we say Ozempic, it means whatever. It means any of those weight loss shots, okay? Um, they're on one of those and they'll be like, they look like hell. They look like hell, they look sick, they look, they've got the Ozempic face, they look like crap, they look like whatever. Um, but then two days later, it'll be like, all my friends are on the shot, and I'm just thinking that that's what I need to do. All my friends are on it, and that's what I need to do because I'm not losing any weight, but they're all losing weight. And I'm like, you literally just said that they look like you know, Ichabod Crane, and now like you want now, but now you want to do that. It's like the mind, the absolute psychological warfare that these types of therapies are putting on people. And again, this is not to discount the amazing things that they can do, you guys. There are some studies coming out about GLP ones and inflammation and things like that, that it is really absolutely helpful for people who struggle with um, you know, blood sugar and insulin and things like that. It is obviously a hundred percent legit. Um, but the psychological warfare that it is causing people, because you have to like the amount of brainwashing it takes for you to get on a scale every day for a year, two years, three, however long these folks are on these things, and to watch your weight go down 50, 60, 70, 80, 90 pounds, not be able to see, like in the mirror that that like you're losing too much weight to watch your, you know, your visceral fat numbers stay exactly the same and to feel like you just have to keep going. Like again, it's just this crazy. It's just it's so psychological and it breaks our hearts in the gym every single day because it's like at what point are we as like health professionals going, hey, like this has to stop? Like this has to stop somewhere. And the thing about those things too, you guys, is you're not gonna stop cold turkey. And if you do, I promise you got a story about that. Because when your body wakes up from that, um, and you and again, if you haven't worked on keeping your lean muscle up, um, your metabolism is trash. So your metabolism is not gonna be able to maintain that weight loss in any way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

And if you haven't worked on your relationship with food andor just your habits, right? Like if you're not already going on walks and already working with the therapist or at least through journaling on your relationship with food, you're just gonna take a hundred steps back and then it's gonna make you feel even worse because you'll say, Wow, it really it wasn't me. Right? Like I didn't really lose that much weight. I pretty much had that weight taken off of me. Like it fell off because I was doing shots, but I didn't really lose that weight. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

Well, and again, like then it comes back because nothing, like you said, nothing has changed. And again, keeping this in regards to the in-body, because you and I could do a whole episode about the other stuff, but it's like at the end of the day, the in-body is worse. And this is where we cannot tell you enough about how losing weight does not just equal success and health and all of those things because we're watching an in-body get trashed on the metabolic side. And then you've got people who are losing all this weight who are losing their hair, literally. You guys, uh little sidebar here. I went into Ulta the other day and I was talking to the girl at the front. They had all these little stands of all this new hair care product stuff. And but I was talking to her about something specific that I was looking for. And I um, the girl, there was another woman who walked up, she was like looking at the shampoo and the conditioner, whatever, this new brand that was over there. And she was like, um, said to the woman, like in between her and I talking, she goes, Is this the one for you know, Ozempic hair? Like, is this the one for for the hair loss or whatever? And she was like, Yeah, like this is it, it's it's amazing. For like, um, it was for fine hair and it's not to like, again, to help you keep your hair. That's not gonna happen. Like, you can't, there's nothing you can take when you're not taking enough calories to keep your hair. But the amount of money that these companies now are making because they've recognized, oh, uh like these weight loss shots are making everybody bald. Yeah. So let's help them with their fine hair. Like, let's help get some fluff on their fine hair and whatever. And so literally, I looked around, I was like, oh my God, every stand at the front of the store is fine hair shampoo, which is nuts. And the fact that she came up and said, Is this the shampoo for like Ozempic hair? It was something I can't remember what exactly she said, but it was something like that.

SPEAKER_00 36:31

And I was like, that's what all the the restaurants are doing, the same thing, right? Like all these restaurants are coming out with their GLP 1 support menu. So you can order from HelloFresh now for GLP 1 support and like all these different you can go to, and it's not that they're actually changing anything. Like we mentioned this on our pod. We were talking about there's like a new protein pocket at Subway, and it's not any better macros, it's just it's marketed as the protein pocket, but you could have just got the chicken, bacon, tomato, whatever, and it would have been the same, probably better for you. But yeah, like Smoothie King did it, they were like the first chain to come out with a true GLP1 support menu, and it's like it just has macros in it. Like there's just macros. There's just more protein and a little bit of sustenance because that's what these people are not getting. Like there's no special serum in it. It's just like you're not gonna eat. Well, you could eat our stuff still. Yeah, it's yeah, it's because they're just worried about their bottom line because people are just eating less food. It's it's like one out of four Americans are on, or one out of eight Americans right now are on a GLP one. Like it's it's something insane. And then those people are just eating and snacking inherently less. So, as a business plan, you have to say, well, we have GLP one support.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Yeah, but and speaking of that, again, like bringing it back. Look at me, look at me bringing it back, guys. This is normally Shamar's job, but I'm bringing it back. So um bringing it back to the in-body again. If this is something that you choose to do, the education is the biggest part. So it's like if you're gonna do that, you need to be coupled up with a place that's doing in-body scans. You need to be coupled up with a place that is helping you maintain your lean muscle. Um, because it's just, it isn't it is a fact of life at this point. If you go off of this thing after you lose all that weight, you are going to gain it back. I am saying it. Like point blank, period. It you're gonna gain it back. If you have not done what you need to do to maintain your muscle mass, to decrease your body fat while you're doing this. Um, also, you know, the other thing that we were talking about was you're gonna lose like liver mass, you guys, like organ mass. You need that stuff. I don't know if you're aware of that, but you need that stuff. Um, but making sure that you're keeping a hold of those things and you've got coaching on your side that is gonna keep you accountable to those goals and not let you just live off the high of losing weight, because that high is absolutely temporary. I promise you, period, all my life. Um, if you are not doing this the right way, you're gonna gain it back. And that's just end of story. So find a place that does in bodies. Come talk to us if you're a person who is interested in doing that. Because again, it is a tool. It can be used. It's all the same things. But if you're doing it for vanity purposes, if you're doing it for the wrong reasons, if you're doing it the wrong way, it is going to backfire 100%. This is this this um, I don't want to say epidemic, this trend is a powder keg.

SPEAKER_02 39:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

You heard it here first. This trend is a powder keg, and what it is going to do to people's bone mass, the soft, what what did we read in that article that was like two years or like some two times bone softening in a year of taking a GLP one? Um, and then the other one was like um two, twenty years of muscle mass loss in whatever whatever it was, it was like a year and a half or something like that of taking.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

Two years of muscle mass loss in crazy. Crazy. It's really crazy.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

Craziness, you guys. That is stuff that you those are longevity markers. Those are things that are gonna keep you out of a nursing home. Those are the things that are gonna keep you from breaking a hip. Yeah. Um, those are the things that are gonna keep you being able to just function as a healthy adult, an older person, senior, whatever. Like those are important things. And you swapping that right now for just like the skinny thing is not it. So get with somebody who doesn't embody because it can give you all of the information that you need in that way.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Okay. I think this is a good time to plug one of our old episodes from season one, Redefining Health, I think is what it was called, and just going back and listening to what we talk about there of what health and wellness really is, you know, because we mention all the time that skinnier doesn't mean healthier or skinnier doesn't mean better, but what is health, right? What are actual health promoting activities? We have all sorts of pods talking about that stuff in the past, but like Carissa is saying, vanity is not worth your longevity, right? You want to go 20 years, 30 years from now and regret the fact that you did this, or just you know, hop on the treadmill, do what you need to do, talk to a dietitian, come move some weights, and feel super badass about something you achieved. The paths are there. You just have to want it and you just have to do it. And then if you need a GLP one as you know assistance down the line, there's nothing wrong with that, like we've said, but we just promote trying everything you can do naturally first. Try the, you know, try the nutrition improvements, try the extra steps, try the resistance training, and you're gonna see a change. And then when you're on the GLP one, lo and behold, if you have to, it'll be better for you and you'll have less of the negative side effects. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

So 100%. Yeah. Um, another trend that I want to talk about too. We kind of just chatted about it um when we were talking about the visceral fat is the idea of safety. And this sounds really woo-woo, you guys. I always say this in my consults. I'm like, that's gonna sound really woo-woo, but there is a lot to a body being feeling safe. And when I say safety in health and fitness, I mean safety in the fact that you're like eating enough. Um, you've got enough calories coming in, you've got enough of like the good food that is fueling your body. You're not stuck in fight or flight all the time. Like your nervous system is regulated, your parasympathetic system is regulated. Um, or if it gets dysregulated, there's ways that you can bring it back within check fairly easily. You're not living in an environment that keeps you stressed out all the time. Um, you know, going to therapy and doing different things like that. You're drinking enough. You have enough fluids, like the right kind of fluids coming in. You're hydrated, you're getting enough minerals so that your body can function. Um, the four main minerals are really important that you're getting that. So you're eating good fruits and vegetables and um getting in enough magnesium and potassium and things like that that keep you fueled. You're getting enough sleep, like you're getting enough sleep so that your body can recover and it can come back the next day, like ready to rock and roll. All those things, you guys, again, it sounds really woo-woo, but it leads to an overall safety feeling in your body. Um, and that a hundred percent is related to your body's ability to like open a metabolic pathway to use fat as an energy source instead of using glycogen and your muscle mass as an energy source. Um the less safe your body feels, again, that is through starvation, that is through restriction, that is through overtraining, that is through not sleeping and your cortisol's levels being through the road. All of those things, the less safe your body feels, your body will hold more fat. Your body holds fat as a biological response to stress because it feels the need to keep you safe. And fat is a biological way to keep somebody safe because again, it's If there's famine, if there's something bad that happens, if we can't get food, if we can't get whatever, your body can use fat as an energy source for as long as humanly possible.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

It'll survive for longer. It's good for warmth, it's good for you know perceived defenses. You don't want to be frail and small, you know, bigger things look safer and harder to mess with.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Yep. 100%. And so again, it sounds woo-woo, but I promise you, that is a big thing that we see on these in-bodies. I we have so many clients who are now coming in and doing like our infrared sawpod. And the amount of these ladies, especially, but you know, our gentlemen too who come in and it's like the jaw is clenched and I'm great and I'm trying to lose weight and I'm trying to do all these things. And it's like, okay, we need to just start off with just you linking arms with your body right now and figuring out what is she trying to tell you? Like, what is what are we trying to do? Let's take a break for a second from all the dieting and all the crazy and all the whatever. And I want you to just do the infra xonopod. I want you to do a PT session a week. I want you to work on just hitting enough protein right now and the results that these ladies are seeing, not just in like in-body scans, which has been great already, but just in the way they feel, is absolutely incredible. And I promise as we continue to go on through these, we will start seeing big changes in body fat percentages that were not moving before, visceral fat numbers that were not moving before, because there is a safety aspect that's happening. There's a calm that's that's happening with these ladies, that it's not health and fitness is a punishment that I have to figure out because my body sucks and I have to beat it into doing what I want it to do. And that's what we come in. Like, I even feel the difference when I'm just saying that is like, and I lived it. I lived it forever. Like my body's not doing what I want it to, punish it, punish it, get in the gym, do more, go harder, eat less, get a new program, knock the containers down. You're gonna do this, not no carbs for you for the entire week type situation, versus being like, hey, what's going on? Like, what it's are we not we're not sleeping well? Like, what's going on with that? We're going to therapy, we feeling okay. Nervous system feels a little rough this week. Like, what can I do to help regulate that and bring that down? Because the cortisol being through the roof, you guys, and this is real because again, this is something I monitor through blood work forever to watch my cortisol levels spike, stay so high that they were pushing me into pseudomenopause and and perimenopause situations. And then being able to actually bring those back down through focusing on really specific stuff, it changes the entire game. It when your cortisol levels are that high, it is really hard for your body to do anything. And again, those are things that will show on the in-body. So that's another trend that we will see sometimes is like somebody's body fat percentage just keeps spiking and going up and up and up. It seems like we've tried everything, seems like everything else is right. And then we start having those tough conversations about where's your mental health? Where's your cortisol level? Are you sleeping ever? How's school going?

SPEAKER_00 47:02

Housework. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:04

And then that's where we find a lot of that stuff is happening. It's like, oh, you're stressed the F out. Your body is living in fight or flight all day, every day.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

Yeah, these workouts are actually doing you more harm than good, right now. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 47:17

So, and especially those hardcore pounding group classes that like there's no rest, there's no monitoring where you started or where you're going or how many reps of this you should actually be doing, or what the weight is just like bam, bam, bam, killing them. Um, but it stresses your body out. Your body's in a constant state of fight or flight, and then you're like, your body is going, yeah, no, I'm I'm not gonna use body fat. Yeah, I don't know what the hell is happening. Your body doesn't know the difference between a diet and famine. Your body doesn't know the difference between you training for whatever and getting chased by, I don't know, some prehistoric creature. Like your body doesn't know it was just created perfectly to save you and keep you alive. That's your body's whole goal is to keep you alive. It doesn't give a damn what kind of swimsuit you're fitting into this summer or you know, what bodybuilding competition you have coming up. It wants to keep you alive and functioning to the best of its ability.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

And so you can't do no bodybuilding competition dead. No, 100%, brother.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

The body knows that. But that is another trend that we see a lot too. Again, is that the higher the stress and fight or flight and the cortisol living, the less results that we're getting on the other side, the less your body fat percentage is gonna come down. Um, so doing all those really healthy things, like again, infrared sauna, infrared sauna pods, cortisol packs, or excuse me, um, castor oil packs, um, supporting your liver in ways. If you are going through perimenopause, menopause, looking into, you know, hormone replacement therapies or things that can help your estrogen levels. Um, peptides, I am huge on the AOD MOTC combo, it is my favorite right now. And the glutathione helps my liver because when you're in perimenopause, your liver functioning starts crashing because your estrogen is tanking. And so it's just natural, it's just what happens. So the glutathione shot is a nice way to bump that up. Anytime that I'm gonna, you know, go to Chili's, have me a marg, I do my glutathione shot that night. I wake up the next morning feeling like, hmm, my body just metabolized all that perfectly. And I rarely drink anymore. Um, but when I do, my body just needs a little extra help uh metabolizing that. And so that's what I use the peptides for. So there's lots of really great things, again, that you can do to help combat that. But that's another trend that we see on the in-body scan. Um, a lot. Did I miss any trends that you can think of?

SPEAKER_00 49:36

No, I think that's pretty good besides the fact that we see some really positive trends.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

I was gonna say, you know, like so yeah, let's talk about the good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 49:45

So uh what is close us out? The most positive trend that I see is really just when people start moving out of joy. Like when I have clients that just discover that they really enjoy going and walking at one of the parks in town, or they enjoy taking a bike ride with their family, or they enjoy playing pickleball twice a week with their friends, because that's just cardio and calorie burn that sneaks into your week that you don't understand is happening. So they're still checking all the boxes, showing up to the gym, going on their walks, but all of a sudden they play pickleball twice a week and they're like, Holy cow, I've never seen my fat drop like this. And I'm like, This is what I've been saying the whole time. Find ways to enjoy your cardio, right? The biggest thing is seeing people find the the line of working out being for a goal and for joy. Because once you actually enjoy moving, guess what? You move more, and when you move more, guess what? As a side effect of moving more, because what is fuel for your body, calories, you just burn more calories, right? And that's that's all it is. You don't have to watch every single thing you're eating or measure every little thing on a scale. If you just know I play pickup once a week with my friends and go on a walk with my good friend on Thursday, that might be two hours of cardio that you just weren't doing before, right? And now your cardio for the week is at four hours, but doesn't feel like it, you know. So if you can just find a way to, you know, join a men's league, play softball, find a friend who you can go on a walk with once or twice a week this summer, you know, join a run club like my good buddy Jacob has found so many good friends and so much passion in this run club that he does that he just did a half marathon recently, but he does it out of the love, and he's getting benefits from doing something he enjoys, not from punishing himself by running. So when you can find a way to enjoy moving, you naturally move more and your body thanks you for it.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

Yeah, I love that. I was just listening to, you know, the podcast with you and Melissa, and it that's just such her mindset. Like you guys are so similar in that way. And the way you talk about it is like, you know, she said, you know, my week looks like I private train at least once a week and I lift weights, nothing crazy, but I do things that are very intentional and things that I love. She says I swim once a week, I yoga once a week, I drum once a week. I do and it's like and I she I dance once a week, and it's like that's it. Like that's how you do it. And again, it can be you love to go to the gym. So you box three times a week. That used to be my, it will be my story again once my shoulder gets fixed. But that used to be me as like, I'm gonna box three to four times a week. Like I just love it. It's my running, like how Jacob is his thing. Boxing is my thing. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

Absolutely. But I love to get it in.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

Yeah, but I love the idea of just it's like, yeah, once a week I'm gonna swim, once a week I'm gonna walk, once a week I'm gonna drum, once a week I'm gonna do yoga. I think it's so powerful. And I think um, again, it but you're so right that people just don't realize. When we have people come in, they have this idea of like, I've got to do this and this and this, especially to see like a result on an in-body, right? And I love telling people is like, hey, let's just get you rolling in here and we'll do another scan in 21 to 30 days. And we're gonna make these couple just minor things, like they're not even necessarily changes. We never restrict anything right off the bat. It's like adding something or making a minor adjustment to the way that you're looking at something. And then 90% of the time, if not more, they've already made gains in the first 30 days. And I'm like, okay, perfect. You're already trending in the right direction on everything. What are you doing? And they're like, uh, not as much as I should have been doing. Are you serious? Like looking at it, and I'm like, this is the point. Yeah. You don't have to make these huge, giant, crazy, I have to eat 200 grams of protein because you know, whoever the hell said it on social media, and I've got to do all this cardio to start off, and I've got to do all this. They're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 53:50

I don't have a shake plate at home, and I'm not doing apple cider vinegar and crazy.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

Like the very small adjustments, you will start seeing gains. And again, we can classify those as newbie gains or whatever you want. It doesn't matter, they're gains. Now, eventually, your body will plateau out of those things, but then you've already worked these things into habits, and you're like, I can do this, I can eat 75 grams of protein a day. How that's easy. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 54:17

You enjoy them more. Yes, and then just do this. When you love to kayak, kayaking once a week probably kicks your ass. Then you're like, Well, I want to kayak three times a week, right? So you didn't even have to think about doing more to keep progressing to getting the gains. If you find stuff that you really enjoy, you'll be hard pressed not to do it more often. You'll be you'll just want to. It'll just be worked into your week. You'll throw something else to the wayside. You'll be like, can't work late today. I'm I'm already kayaking. I got a paddleboard date. You know, like that, and that's that's what makes it work is movement and life becoming intertwined, not just moving when life requires you to move.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Yeah, absolutely. And I think again, all that to say, the in-body scans will reflect those things.

SPEAKER_00 55:07

That's the trend. I mean, that's yeah, that's just what does it mean.

SPEAKER_01 55:09

Yes, like when you create a life around this stuff, it will be reflected in the in-body scan 10 times out of 10 versus this like hardcore, you know, like I'm just doing this to try to lose weight and see this come down. We just never see that last. We never see that. That's exactly. It just doesn't hit the same and it it'll wear you out, you know. I'm the first to say I'm a fourth quarter player. Like I do my best work when we're at the two-minute warning in the fourth quarter. I do my best work, but that's not sustainable over time. Like I have 100% have to be like, okay, at some point, this is bad for my mental health. So I've got to like start earlier. I've got to work these habits into my life to keep me from having to do that. And again, I think that's the beauty of the way we use the in-body personally, is in a way that it's very empowering, it's very educational. It's very, again, helping people understand how their body works too, so that if they leave Rebel, they can walk out knowing this is what worked for my body versus this is what was killing it. And they'll never get duped. I always tell them, I want you to never get duped by another cleanse, another diet, another shitty gym owner who's trying to get you on some stupid no pounds challenge or whatever the hell it is. Like you're never gonna be duped by that stuff again because you understand the inner workings of your body and how, yeah, this may be a quick way for you to lose 20 pounds on the scale, but what you're doing internally to your body is a lot of damage. And again, we don't want that powder keg. We want the in-body to be an empowering thing that's a way to help people understand how things are working, how the science of your body works. Um, so that you can be the healthiest you possibly can going forward. It's just not, I mean, the first thing I do when that in-body prints off is I scratch out their weight. Like, we don't pay attention to this. So by weight, like we don't care. We're coming straight down here to muscle and body fat. And I've had people say before, like, wow, that felt good to watch you like that's amazing. Okay, like just black that thing out because it just is not the focus. It is not a determinant of health. We say that 5,000 times in here, but I'm gonna say it again. It's not even on top 20 determinants of health in general. And so we want you guys to flip your mindset around that. We want you to find a place that doesn't inbody if you think any of this resonated with you and it helped you, um, especially us, come find us because again, I am biased, but the way that we educate and the way that we use the in-body is so empowering, it's so helpful. Again, not everybody is good with this.

SPEAKER_00 57:43

And our training staff, right? The way that they encourage and use the in-body as something to help motivate you, but never throw it in your face. Never remember that last in-body scan, right? That's never how we're gonna use it.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Yes, I just literally was walking out the door, and one of our members did just did an in-body scan, and she was so freaking hype. So if you're like watching on YouTube, you can kind of like see this a little bit. This is what an in-body scan looks like. Um, so down here on the bottom where we've been tracking, and she's been with us for um a while now, but and she's always done great, but things have kind of like maintained, gone up a little bit, and then you know, they'll dip a little bit. But um she finally she was like, I'm getting it. Like, I get my body, I get what it needs. I've undone all of this thinking and all this stuff. Like, I mean, she just like preaching, but um since her last scan, she's gone up three pounds of lean muscle mass, and her body fat percentage went down um 3%, which is huge. She's 58 years old. This is huge. Um, and just again, not just the result, but like the knowledge that comes with it. And she's like, I just finally get it. And the freedom, it's so powerful. It's like, oh, and again, I promise you, it's nothing that she was taught via diet culture or anything growing up. It's actually the opposite. And it's like clicking and her and also her body, I think she's been with us long enough that she has been doing well, undoing a lot of the the stuff. Um, you know, there's a lot to say for like reverse dieting and things like that. I think a lot of people have to do that, they have to give their body time to come out of all the trauma we put it through to be able to kind of start fresh. And um, so anyway, on that note, you guys, any other closing thoughts about the in-body scan, Shamar, that you have?

SPEAKER_00 59:39

Uh, just make sure you use what you learned in this episode to, you know, protect yourself. And if you do go somewhere with an in-body or a different, you know, scanner that's still supposed to be a very high-level scanner for body fat muscle mass, talk to them about it, see, you know, their perspective on it and how they're gonna use it, right? So, like, why do we take this scan, right? Maybe just even ask them that question. And is it, hey, just to hold us accountable, just to give us a baseline, some knowledge to help you out, or so you can see what you've been doing and how it reflects, and just just kind of listen to the verbiage, right? Make sure you're not only getting a high quality scan, but you're having it done at a high quality facility.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

Absolutely. And not over scanning. I think that's a big red flag right off the bat. If they want you to scan a ton of times quick, you know, quick in a row, and just be like, okay, we're gonna stay on top of this every single time. And, you know, um, I think that's really dangerous. The end of the day, you guys, we want you to remember that like you know fast results usually mean you're losing the wrong things. And so we want it to be a trend over time that we're seeing you do make the adjustments, build the habits, and do things the right way. Again, like this client that we were just talking about with this, it's like it's seemingly slow, but it's slow until it's not. And then it's like, damn, now I got it, now I got it. And then you've got that for life. So it's a little blip of time to figure it out and take the time to be able to live a lifetime of like being empowered. And we love using the in-body for that. So I hope this was helpful education-wise for anybody out there. Um, if you have questions about this, please do not hesitate to message us. You can always go to our website, rebelfitnessnc.com, go to that little chat button. You can schedule an in-body scan with us anytime. Um, even if you're not a member, we can do one of those for you. If you're a member, obviously we do those for our folks all the time. We can do an interpretation also. Um, you can also get on YouTube and you can search the inbody 570, which is the one that we have, and you can see doctors talking about all the things that it does, which is really, really um science nerdy for those of you who like that kind of stuff, like we do. Um, but find somebody who does something like that. Stay away from the scale. If you're in a gym or with somebody who is only using the scale to measure, red flag. Red, red, red, red, red flag. Um, you can also get your own devices at home. Um, the Hume is one that comes highly recommended from people. The rest of them are kind of like, meh, you know, I don't know. It's questionable. Again, if you're watching trends over time, that's the biggest thing. But if you're doing it every single day, that's not healthy for you. So um, anyway, let us know if you guys have any questions about anything. And we appreciate you guys being here. As always, follow us on all the socials, and we will catch you on the next episode.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:31

Bye. Later. Yo, this is a call really hurts some people's feelings. So if you're a little sensitive, you might as well turn this john off right now.

unknown 1:02:41

Okay.